I think what’s been challenging for us is that we’re in the middle of changing labels. We just finished our deal with Atlantic and we’re looking for a new partner and trying to figure that out. So I think it has complicated the process, it has made it a little longer, cause right now, it’s hard to talk to people, to have meetings, to make sure you choose the right partner. So that added a level of complexity to the whole thing that we didn’t expect. And on top of that to try to find like your new home, like how you’re gonna release new music, you know, throwing in everything that happened, throwing in the whole TikTok thing, which took us by surprise and was gigantic and trying to figure out how do we release music – it’s been a challenging year to say the least.

So I don’t know if we’re waiting for touring to come back, per se, I just think we have a lot of things that have to kind of align. But I’m hoping… I know that our fans have been really patient and I know that we’re kind of stretching the elastic of their patience. And like we need to put it out. And even for ourselves. Like… we’ve been living with these songs for a long time now, we’ve recorded them, you know, we can’t wait to release them. It’s just… it’s been weird. It’s been disappointing, to be honest. It’s been kind of heartbreaking. Like, why can’t we just, you know… put this out.

But there’s also the fear of, like, we worked so hard on it, you don’t wanna put it out and have it just kind of go away and nothing happening. Like, I look at All Time Low, good friends of ours. They put out a record, they’ve done all the virtual shows and they have the biggest hit of their career with Monsters. And they’re like stuck at home. It must be amazing on one end, cause you’re like oh my god, we finally have that song, and we finally have what we’ve been chasing for for so long, but it’s probably also pretty heartbreaking because you’re like, man, like why did it have to happen this year, you know?”